1/17/2008 @ 7:58 am by Daniel Eisner
When it comes to my personal computer, I’m like Robin Harris — I believe in making as many copies of my data as I can, as often as I can.
Why? I’m 29 now. I have files on my hard drive that include BASIC software I wrote when I was 13, short stories I wrote when I was in high school, and projects I worked on in college. I’ve got an iTunes library that took 10 years to build, and gigs upon gigs of photographs of me and my wife. If my house were to burn down today, my biggest loss would be my hard drive, because it is literally irreplaceable.
And so while I started using Apple’s Time Machine recently to keep local backups, I was looking for a second way to do it — preferably one that is off-site and automatic, so I don’t need to worry about it. Essentially, something like Mozy.
Mozy is an online service which provides backups for your home computer. There are plenty of reviews (both good and bad, as well as indifferent) which describe Mozy’s pros and cons, so I won’t go into super detail on that. Basically, there is a little program that runs in the background and backs up your files every now and then to their servers. If you need to restore a file, you can do it through their web site or else through the program you download.
This is a great service for me, because I can count on Apple Time Machine to provide most of my backup needs (like, “oops, accidentally deleted a file”), while Mozy provides a second layer of protection (like “oops, my baby nephew tried to make all my USB drives bounce on the floor”).
The cost also makes a lot of sense for me. For $60/year, I get unlimited backups. Since I am looking to back up around 500 GB of stuff, this is cheaper than purchasing a new hard drive, like I need to do for Time Machine.
So, about 2 weeks ago, after giving all this thought to signing up for Mozy, I decided to go for it. And quickly ran into my first problem. After paying them through their web site, I found out that the Mac client isn’t available! The weird thing is that it was still listed on their site as a download … which just went to an error 404 page. After contacting tech support, I was told that “this is a known issue, and it should be available again shortly.” There was no message of any kind on their web site. Nevertheless, I tried again the next day, and was able to download the client.
At this point, I was a bit on edge. Not because they took the Mac client offline, but because they made no attempt to notify their clients! Backup companies should have a full-disclosure policy. If I am counting on them to keep my files safe, I need to know if there is a problem. What happens if they simply don’t mention that they lost my latest backup, and I decide to wipe my computer and restore it from them at that time? This is obviously unacceptable.
However, if that were the only issue I ran into, it would have been OK. After all, the Mac client was marked as “beta,” and I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that this was a one-time oversight.
So, I used the downloaded client to start creating a backup. I should note that creating a 500 GB backup takes quite some time, even over Verizon FIOS. Mozy seems to limit their incoming bandwidth to around 100 KB/s, at least for my client. I know from other things that my connection is capable of at least 10 times that.
About 40 GB into the backup (about two days), the Mozy client gave me an error. It said “ServerError11.” Not very descriptive, so I looked at the log file, which said “Server Error. Disconnecting.” Also not very descriptive. Despite multiple reboots and retries at this point, I could no longer get the Mozy client to continue its backup.
I contacted tech support again, and told them the problem. They said that there was probably a “lock” on my account, and they would have it cleared within 24 hours. They didn’t tell me what a “lock meant.” 24 hours later, it still wasn’t working. This was on a Thursday. I gave them the weekend, and contacted them again on Tuesday. Again, I was told the same thing, and that they must escalate the issue to a developer, and it would be cleared within 24 hours. OK. Again, 24 hours go by, and the issue hadn’t gone away. I contacted tech support a fourth time. When I mentioned that I had been told twice that it would be fixed within 24 hours, the guy told me “there are other people with the same problem, and they haven’t been helped yet.” Ouch.
So, what’s the conclusion here? It has now been more than a week since I haven’t been able to back up. In fact, since signing on to Mozy I have not been able to complete a single complete backup. The staff seems unable to resolve any problems in a timely fashion. What’s much more important than even those issues, however, is that Mozy seems unable or unwilling to freely communicate with its customers.
Mozy, I understand that you may be going through some growing pains with all the press coverage you’ve gotten lately. That’s OK. But, as a backup company, your name and reputation DEPEND on being reliable. Reliable doesn’t mean you don’t ever have operating issues. What it does mean is that you disclose those issues when you do, so that people who rely on you can adjust their plans and expectations accordingly.
Until the issue of communication with customers is resolved, I would need to recommend for people that they steer clear of Mozy. You wouldn’t want to rely on a backup company which may or may not be functioning as advertised, and which you can’t trust to even tell you which is the case.
If someone from Mozy wants to contact me, and address this issue, I would be happy to update this blog post. Given their track history so far (when I was chasing them for info), I’m not holding my breath.
* Update *
Within hours, I was contacted by David Dreyer, Support Operations Manager at Mozy. David is working to resolve my issue, and says that there is a general Mozy software update coming this weekend which should resolve similar issues for other users. David was very aggressive in addressing this problem, and that of notification I mentioned above. Sometimes it’s nice to be proven wrong
I’ll have another update once my problems have been resolved.
Read on for the 45-day update.






January 18th, 2008 at 11:12 am
The squeaky wheel gets fixed.
The problem however is with the Mozy model.
Mozy and some others use the sort of model made popular by many gimmicky web hosts — in other words charging very low monthly prices and betting that most users will only us a fraction of the service. Nowadays, many, many folks like you have lots of data to back up.
When you back up too much, it just shuts off.
After doing some research (offsite backup is important to me after having lost data on several occassions), I settled on a company (blush for plug, but so far they deserve it) http://www.filebackup.net
Not as cheap as Mozy, but close and the bandwidth is much, much better. Yes it still takes time to backup up lots of data — but reasonable
January 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am
You raised a public stink and got some action. I’ve been getting error messages for a week and Mozy will not even respond to my tech service requests. It did work fine for a few days. But so what. I have 0 confidence that I could even recover my data if my hard drive failed. These people just don’t show the slighest interest in customer support unless someone like you threatens to tarnish their immage and hurt sales to new suckers. When they only customer service is to those who publiclly threaten sales, you know something is terribly wrong an Mozy.
April 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Just a question about other services. I’m having fits– and apparently it’s not unusual, I’ve found to my dismay– with Norton360. After subscribing to the online backup service and backing up my data, my computer crashed. Now I find out that you can only restore your data to the same computer you backed up your data from. I thought the point of online back ups was to protect you from hardware failures or catastrophes like house fires or stolen computers. I also can’t get past the outsourced customer service/tech support people to find anyone to complain to or ask about alternative means of retrieval. Anyone have similar experience– who found a way out?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:55 am
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June 16th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I signed up for Mozy’s paid service and have been unable to get a backup to complete. I have been trying for close to a month. I get no response to emails to their support address.
I have contacted my credit card company, to get a refund.
June 18th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
wow, I am having the exact same issue! I have been using Mozy great for almost a year, now suddenly in the past 2 weeks it is doing the same thing as described in this original article. I have uninstalled everything, reinstalled, disabled my virus scanner, everything, support has sent me responses, but nothing that I haven’t already tried and really I feel doesn’t have a clue what is the problem.
In fact, I had approx 250gb of my 290gb backed up, they told me to uninstalled, reinstall, then disable my virus scanner from modifying a .sys file. I did as they described, now that I have uninstalled and reinstalled, it now has started back at the beginnging of my backup, ouch! So at this point, I have 0 bytes backed up. Just rebooted again, still same issue. Unbelieveable, I am going to ask for a refund if they can’t fix this within a week or so, I paid for a 2 year plan.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:38 am
Well, it seems nothing has changed much since the first post. I’ve been shut off from the Mozy servers for two weeks now. No reply to any of my emails to support, tried to call a couple of times and finally got connected to some guy who dares say “we are currently having problems, will probably be fixed today”. Well, if a backup service has problems for two weeks that make it impossible to create a backup, it’s definitely the wrong service. Wrong company, too, if they are unable to respond to any customer request, let alone inform anyone beforehand. Oh, and by the way, I just started backing up my Mac with 36 GB, that should be tolerable, now, shouldn’t it.
September 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
A friend encouraged me to try out Mozy. I’m on Leopard (10.5.4) MacBook 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. I’m on a Mozy free 2.2 Go limit. I chose to back up two Folders(which added up to 1.7 Go). The first backup took one night and one day, with an average upload speed of 200-500 kb/s. Back up worked. I then downloaded some mail,and did a quick manual back up, fiddled with the configuration button. And got a “Corrupt configuration file” with “MozyClientError6″ message
I was invited to download the latest Mozy client for Mac(MozySetUp.dmg = Mozy 1.0.1.0 and an Uninstall Mozy.app). I tried all kind of solutions mentioned above, with no result. Finally I tried the following solution which worked
. Uninstall Mozy(with the given app. DO NOT save your configuration file(mine was corrupt). Reinstall Mozy with the latest installer. When welcomed and asked to log in your E-Mail and password, do it. Then wait 5 to 10 minutes for Mozy to communicate with the Mozy servers. When all the wheels stopped spinning, and when allowed, I selected exactly the same “Files and Folders” as before and ticked in the correct small box to confirm the choice of folders. Clicked “Save Configuration” . And Waited! Then went into Mozy/preferences/scheduling/ and made sure none of the boxes were selected. Chose the largest “bandwidth”, Hit the “Back up now” button. Waited another 5 minutes. Suddenly I got in the “Mozy Backup status window” which you have to open, the message “Your files are backed up” appeared. I checked the backup history display, all OK. I then added a new and small text file in the same folder on my MacBook (which had previously selected to be backed up by Mozy).
My tip is be very, very patient with this program, it works in the back ground, one must have a lot of time (the Mozy application on your computer is busy communicating with the Mozy Servers). Quit all other programs on your Mac, and I have 1,6 Go of SDRAM installed. Its better to let it work at night, when the internet is not overloaded in your area….Hope this helps. Val.
I hit the Mozy “Backup now” button. Waited 5 to 10 minutes. Got the same confirmation ! “Yourfiles are backed up”. I then, on my MacBook deleted the small text file, and tested the Mozy “Restore Files Command”, after some time, it allowed me to select (in Mozy server display), the file which I had deleted on my MacBook, I selected it, chose “Restore file”, and 5 to 10 minutes later it appeared on my desktop